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Grand CherokeeGrand Cherokee and Commander Joining Flexible Fuel Vehicles in 2007
Posted by mike on 2006/4/25 12:29:03 (6909) reads

The Jeep® Commander and Jeep Grand Cherokee engineered to operate on clean, renewable, American-made ethanol fuel will be available to U.S. customers as part of DaimlerChrysler's lineup of alternate fuel vehicles in 2007.

Overall for 2007, the company plans to sell more than 250,000 Flexible Fuel Vehicles (FFVs) capable of running on E85 (85 percent ethanol) fuel, said Tom LaSorda, President and CEO – Chrysler Group. That number will increase to nearly 500,000 units beginning in the 2008 model year — about one-quarter of the company's U.S. fleet.

"A significant part of the solution to our energy, environment and national security issues can be homegrown," LaSorda said.

LaSorda discussed the benefits of renewable fuels ethanol and biodiesel in remarks to the Renewable Fuel Association annual conference in Washington, D.C., today.

For 2007, all Jeep Commander and Jeep Grand Cherokee retail and fleet buyers who select the 4.7-liter engine option will receive vehicles capable of running on E85 fuel.

Also available in Flexible Fuel Vehicle (FFV) capability for 2007 are:

* Chrysler Sebring sedan and convertible with the 2.7-liter engine
* Dodge Dakota and Dodge Ram pickups and Dodge Durango SUV with 4.7-liter engine

Dodge Caravan and Grand Caravan and Chrysler Town & Country minivans equipped with 3.3-liter engines will also be available with FFV capability for fleet customers.

About 1.5 million FFV-capable Chrysler Group vehicles are already on the road, representing about 10 percent of all vehicles sold by the company since 1998 — a greater percentage than any other company.

In addition, Chrysler Group is the industry leader in promoting use of biodiesel, a clean, renewable fuel made from plant oils that can be mixed with conventional diesel fuel. Each Jeep Liberty CRD diesel SUV built at the company's Toledo, Ohio, assembly plant is fueled with B5 (5 percent biodiesel), made from soybeans grown and refined in Ohio.

Beginning this fall, the company will test use of B20 (20 percent biodiesel) in its industry-leading Dodge Ram heavy duty diesel pickup trucks, working initially with commercial, government and military fleet customers.

"Biofuels represent a huge opportunity to reduce our consumption of conventional petroleum-based fuel and our dependence on foreign oil," LaSorda said.

Other benefits cited by LaSorda are:

* "Reduced lifecycle carbon dioxide (greenhouse gas) emissions, because the plants from which the fuels are made absorb carbon dioxide from the atmosphere during growth."
* "Reduced tailpipe emissions of particulates, carbon monoxide and other pollutants compared with conventional fuels."
* "A stronger American economy through support of U.S. agriculture."

For vehicles to operate on ethanol-based fuels, engine computer controls must be adjusted and the fuel system (fuel tank, fuel pump and fuel lines) must be altered to resist the effects of the alcohol (ethanol). Chrysler Group FFVs use a patented sensor system to determine the exact content of the fuel (E85, gasoline or any mixture of the two). The seamless transition of one fuel to another is accomplished by an advanced calibration system that determines the concentration of ethanol in the gasoline and adjusts for greatest operational efficiency.

"Unfortunately, too many of these vehicles have been — or will be — running on pure gasoline due to the lack of a fuel infrastructure," LaSorda said. "But we know that flex-fuels can work, when industry and government get behind them and encourage infrastructure development."

Jeep Brand Product Offensive
Sales of Jeep brand vehicles increased 12 percent in 2005 to their highest total since 2000 to 476,532 units compared with 2004 sales of 427,329 units. The positive sales momentum for the brand has continued this year. Through March, Jeep brand sales are 10 percent more than the same period in 2005.

This year, the Jeep brand's lineup grows from four to seven models. The all-new Jeep Wrangler, Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (4-door), Jeep Compass and Jeep Patriot join the Jeep Commander, Jeep Grand Cherokee and Jeep Liberty in dealer showrooms.

Source: DaimlerChrysler press release

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MarkH
Posted: 2006/4/27 15:34  Updated: 2006/4/27 15:34
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 Extensive E85 link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85

What did that poor corn ever do to you?

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Josephus
Posted: 2006/4/26 22:26  Updated: 2006/4/26 22:26
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If DC wants to offer a kit to upgrade my current 4.7L I would switch to E85 today. From what I understand there is a loss in efficiency running alchohol, therefore worse mileage and power.
I'd rather go to biodiesel, from soybeans which they can't give away - and leave the corn for the cattle & people...

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Posted: 2006/4/27 10:26  Updated: 2006/4/27 10:26
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I am not sure that the statement about power is true. E85 has 105 Octane versus 87 - 91 for gasoline. The higher octane numbers allow for higher compression and you can theoretically produce more power using E85 over gasoline.

The FFVs have a sensor that detects the fuel ratio and adjusts performance accordingly.

As far as an upgrade kit, you would need that module and would to replace all fuel lines and tanks to ensure that they would not corrode when used with E85.

Nicely enough, the govenor of Arizona just signed a bill to allow E85 to be sold in Maricopa County (where I live). If DCX isn't going to offer a diesel Commander for 2007 maybe they can offer me a E85 Hemi MDS.

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Posted: 2006/4/25 21:18  Updated: 2006/4/25 21:19
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Ideally, DCX should redesign ALL of it's gasoline engines (many are shared across lines) to accept E85 and also introduce the Bluetec engine into more production vehicles. They should develop a production hydraulic hyrbid system to pair up to both the E85 and diesel engines. With those combinations, they could rake in the profits and fund more exciting Jeep vehicles.

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Posted: 2006/4/25 16:17  Updated: 2006/4/25 16:17
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 Good Article on E85

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Posted: 2006/4/26 22:39  Updated: 2006/4/26 22:39
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 Re: Good Article on E85
Another good article; it looks like Nissan is really making progress on fuel-cells.
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060424/FREE/304240001/1029
0-70 is vague, but the top end is 93mph. 312 mile cruising range, but I wonder how much it costs to refuel (currently I'm paying $65/tank).

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Posted: 2006/4/25 13:12  Updated: 2006/4/25 13:12
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Please build a diesel wrangler!!! ARGH!!!

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Posted: 2006/4/25 20:06  Updated: 2006/4/25 20:06
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Please build the 3.0L V6 BlueTec diesel Wrangler!

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Posted: 2006/4/25 13:03  Updated: 2006/4/25 13:03
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I'm much more interested in Bio-Diesel than in Ethanol. And: LaSorda didn't say anything about the 2007 JGC Diesel model!

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Posted: 2006/4/25 13:01  Updated: 2006/4/25 13:01
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 Re: Grand Cherokee and Commander Joining Flexible Fuel Ve...
What about the new unlimited, will it be available in E85 in the near future as well, i believe there is a lot of hype and want from customers for a better fuel source for the wrangler, so it seems like it would be logical if it was available for E85 as well.

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Posted: 2006/4/26 19:14  Updated: 2006/4/26 19:14
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 Re: Grand Cherokee and Commander Joining Flexible Fuel Ve...
Bring out a diesel! I have money burning in my pocket for a diesel JGC. A diesel Wrangler would be a distant second choice for me, but I could see that selling well too. I have a JGC now and wanted the Liberty CRD, but I heard it was being discontinued so I decided to pass for a year. I figured I could wait for a year for a Bluetec JGC. I really wanted a diesel JGC anyway, but now it looks like the rumors of a 2007 1/2 diesel JGC are fading away. If Toyota comes out with a diesel truck or 4X4 in the next 12 nonths, well, I might not wait for Jeep. Come on DC, there's a market here in the US for diesels, especially for 4x4's....

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Posted: 2006/4/26 21:11  Updated: 2006/4/26 21:12
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 Re: Grand Cherokee and Commander Joining Flexible Fuel Ve...
Don't you guys have LPG(Liquid Petrolium Gas) in the U.S?
It's Cleaner and cheaper then E85 or Diesel.
My 96 JEEP XJ 4.0L has been converted to run on LPG or Petrol, and it still runs well.
Although here in down under, almost every fuel station has an lpg outlet....

Anyway I reckon LPG would be a better alternative to E85??!

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TSeda,
We do not have much LPG infrastructure here in the US for autos. Primarily it is used for heating and grilling. I worked for a government agengy that tested LPG for a few years with really bad results, mainly the mixing bowls were constantly out of adjustment. These were gasoline engines that were converted over to LPG, so I'm sure the OEM technology is better now.
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