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Posted by mike on 2007/1/4 11:18:40 (2743) reads

DetriotNews.com is reporting that Chrysler Group is thinking about offering a free Hemi engine upgrade to certain models of its product line in March - include Jeeps.

DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group plans to launch a first-ever national marketing campaign in March that will let consumers buy a Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep truck equipped with a powerful eight-cylinder Hemi for no additional charge. The popular engine typically costs an extra $1,700. Then in April, Chrysler will offer DVD entertainment systems valued at nearly $1,000 for no additional fee on every minivan it sells, George Murphy, Chrysler's vice president of marketing, told dealers in a Web cast Wednesday.

"It's something that GM and Ford don't have," Murphy told dealers. "It's going to be a conquest program for us."

The article goes on to say that some dealers are skeptical of the promotion, saying that it won't fly unless other non-Hemi models are price-adjusted. The article indicates that Chrsyler Group will discuss the promotions at its dealer council meetings later this month.

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hal2814
Posted: 2007/1/5 8:18  Updated: 2007/1/5 8:18
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 Re: Free Hemis Coming Soon
So do they mean free as in the sunroofs on the 65th packages or do they mean free as in sure the line item option for the Hemi is free but you still have to get the Limited/Super/Whatever model so that you can get the Hemi in the first place? The biggest reason I don't have a Hemi in my Commander is that I had no intention of getting the Limited package. In that vehicle, the Hemi really costs about $10,000 because of the other options you have to add. Besides, my 4.7L is more hemispherical than what they're currently calling a "Hemi" (which should logically be called a Para).

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Posted: 2007/1/5 2:51  Updated: 2007/1/5 2:51
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 Re: Free Hemis Coming Soon
Just ran across this article from Allpar.com, they are reporting that the '08 Chrysler minivans get the "top-end" 4.0 V6 as an option over the 3.8! Why is it that DCX wants to keep power out of the Wrangler, but is willing to throw more into their minivans?! sigh.

http://www.allpar.com/model/m/2008-minivans.html

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RUBICON
Posted: 2007/1/5 7:18  Updated: 2007/1/5 7:20
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 Re: Free Hemis Coming Soon
It's simple. The new 4.0L V6 has an aluminum block. The 3.8L has a cast iron block. The 3.8L will outlast the 4.0L V6 in abusive driving conditions like off-roading.

Given the choice between the two, Jeep was right to choose the 3.8L.

The Wrangler is not designed to be a speed demon. The 3.8L has plenty of horsepower and delivers torque at a lower point than the 4.0L (which is the more important measure on a Jeep). That is why the 3.8L will go in the new Liberty and not the 4.0L V6 that is in the Nitro (which is built on the same assembly line).

You do realize that the Nitro's 4.0L gives only 5hp more and actually delivers 5lbs. less of peak torque, right?

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MarkH
Posted: 2007/1/5 12:49  Updated: 2007/1/5 13:15
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 Re: Free Hemis Coming Soon
The numbers on the 4.0L-V6 Nitro are 255HP (@5800rpm) and 275ft-lbs (@4000rpm).
[Source: 2007 Chrysler Fleet Manual]

The numbers on the 3.8L-V6 Wrangler are 202HP (@5000rpm) and 237ft-lbs (@4000rpm).
[Source: 2007 Jeep Wrangler customer brochure]

By my count, that's 53HP & 38ft-lbs difference in peak values.

I think RUBICON was comparing the 3.8L-V6 to the 3.7L-V6 (210HP @5200rpm, 235ft-lbs @4000rpm).

The corporate mantra for the 3.8L-V6 is that it "maintains higher torque above 3400rpm than the 4.0-I6 it replaces". Translated, that means the 4.0-I6 had more grunt at lower rpms than the minivan engine. Duh. My butt tells me that!

My sources tell me a variant of the 4.0L-V6 (w/ a cast iron block?) is already being considered for the uninspiring 3.8L-V6 minivan engine. If not, we'll have to wait for the new "Phoenix" engines due in 5-6 years...

Having driven the 3.8L-V6 in a 2007 JK Unlimited with both a stick & an auto, saying it is "uninspiring" is a complement.

BTW, if you can spare about $4000 and some wrench time, you might be able salvage your new JK engine. Avenger Superchargers is making a blower for the 3.8L-V6 --sure to be good for a 40-50% improvement in numbers.

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RUBICON
Posted: 2007/1/5 13:06  Updated: 2007/1/5 13:06
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My bad... when I looked up the specs on the Nitro something got switched and I was looking at the 3.7L specs not the 4.0L specs.

Anyway, I would rather have the cast iron block which is available today than the aluminum block. IF a cast iron block of the 4.0L becomes available then that might be an option. But right now that is just speculation.

Uninspiring maybe, you want inspiring in a Wrangler you drop the top, go off-roading... not try to do stoplight to stoplight races with the guy in the Viper next to you.

Believe me, I like speed and power... I love the HEMI under the hood of my Commander. But I also realize that it is not applicable for every car. My Cherokee goes along just fine with its 190hp.

It is sort of like people who whined about rough rides in an SUV which lead to nearly everything having IFS and most vehicles going to IRS too. People need to realize that a vehicle has different purposes. If I want a luxury SUV that can go fast but do a bit of off-roading I would go with my Commander. If I want open air fun or even more off-roading I would get a Wrangler. If I want speed I would get a Dodge Charger SRT-8. Granted I know everyone might not be able to afford multiple vehicles but you choose a vehicle that does the things you want the most, not expect it to do EVERYTHING! IE, don't expect your Wrangler to be quick off the line. The old 4.0L never was it just delivered torque and snapped your head back to make it feel like you were going fast.

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MarkH
Posted: 2007/1/5 13:31  Updated: 2007/1/5 13:31
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You also have to remember that the CJ-7s & YJs (thru '90) had the very torquey 4.2L-I6. Stump pulling & inspiring.

The '91 Wrangler then got the 180HP (...eventually 190+HP) 4.0L-I6 which --in 1991-- had better HP than virtually every other V6 and many V8s, and was clocked by a truck mag at a 8.0sec 0-60... faster than any other truck except a LM002 and the Cyclone & Typhoon. It had a little less low end torque than the 4.2L, but still had grunt and felt... INSPIRING. So ahead of its time, that it lasted thru 16 years of Wrangler production with few complaints.

Now we've got a minivan transplant in a heavier JK that is so smooooth, it has lost all its snap and inspiration... with even less low end grunt.

I don't need a drag racer, either, but when Saturn Vues, Ford Edges and Suzuki XL-7s are getting 250HP+... it's hard not to criticize DCX's engine choice.

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Josephus
Posted: 2007/1/4 23:41  Updated: 2007/1/4 23:41
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 Re: Free Hemis Coming Soon
Am I the only one who finds this quote interesting?
"Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep truck"
Chrysler doesn't have any trucks.
Dodge has trucks with Hemi's.
Jeep doesn't have any trucks - yet!

Gladiator lives, and it will have a free Hemi!
There I started the rumor, let Jeep deny it.

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AngryNJ
Posted: 2007/1/4 19:31  Updated: 2007/1/4 19:31
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 Re: Free Hemis Coming Soon
Just bought an 07 limited grand cherokee. Opted for the 4.7 V8. Love it so far, and has more than enough power for me.
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