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PatriotChrysler Announces Patriot EV!
Posted by mike on 2009/1/11 19:18:05 (2089) reads

In a bit of a surprise, Chrysler today unveiled the Jeep Patriot EV in Detriot at the North American International Auto Show.

The vehicle has a 400-mile range, with a 40-mile all-electric range with zero fuel emissions - similar to the Wrangler EV.

As a Range-extended Electric Vehicle, the Jeep Patriot EV combines the electric-drive components of an Electric Vehicle with a small gasoline engine and integrated electric generator to produce additional energy to power the electric-drive system when needed. This provides the positive attributes of an Electric Vehicle with the driving range equivalent to today’s gasoline-powered vehicles.



"The Jeep Patriot EV expands our portfolio of ENVI electric-drive vehicles and is just one more example of what is possible through the technology Chrysler is developing,” said Lou Rhodes, President, – ENVI, and Vice President, Advance Vehicle Engineering, Chrysler LLC. “Moreover, the Patriot EV provides socially responsible, advanced electric technology in the industry’s most capable compact SUV."

The Jeep Patriot EV features a refined and clean front appearance to match the refined and clean powertrain. The signature Jeep grille features vertical accents, and the front fascia is a separate component to help set the grille apart. The use of body-color paint, blended with matte black B- and C-pillars, visually creates a smooth and elongated profile.

The unique wheel design and size gives the Jeep Patriot EV a wide stance which combines with the paint treatment to produce a sporty form. The interior of the Jeep Patriot EV features all of the elements introduced in the refreshed 2009 Jeep Patriot.

The Jeep Patriot EV uses an electric-drive motor, advanced lithium-ion battery system and a small gasoline engine with an integrated electric generator to produce additional energy to power the electric-drive system when needed. Range-extended Electric Vehicles provide customers a no-compromise means of dramatically reducing their gasoline use and carbon footprint. The Jeep Patriot EV has a range of 400 miles, including 40 miles of zero fuel-consumption, zero-emissions, all-electric operation.

The Jeep Patriot EV features a new ENVI Green Pearl exterior with a prominent "EV" graphic adorning both sides – top-to-bottom – of the vehicle.

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xjken99
Posted: 2009/1/17 17:36  Updated: 2009/1/17 17:39
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I have my '99 Cherokee Sport 4x4 that I have modified for moderate trails and since it is still in great shape there is no reason to get rid of it. That being said while gas is fairly cheap now we all know it won't last so my next vehicle purchase will be some kind of fuel efficient vehicle. The Patriot EV is very interesting to me for several reasons. Since I live just two miles from work I could according to Chrysler drive back and forth to work for two weeks on one charge. Or as someone here has already mentioned I could use it as a hybrid and get maybe 40-45 miles per gallon. When I look around at the other vehicles out there that could give me the mpg, interior volume and possible 4x4 capability of the Patriot it looks even better. As far as a $30,000 price tag I look at it this way. There are a lot of choices out there in that price range but it all depends on what you want for your money. Some would want Rubicon others a full size PU or a decent performance car or a nice SUV or mid size. One thing the anti hybrid skeptics always throw out there is the fact it will take you this amount of miles to pay for the premium of the hybrid model vs the regular version. While it mite be true I doubt the hybrid owners ever take that into consideration. Of course there is always the question of Chryslers survival and if any of these EVNI's ever see the light of day.

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Posted: 2009/1/21 17:11  Updated: 2009/1/21 17:11
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In addtion to what you said here:

"One thing the anti hybrid skeptics always throw out there is the fact it will take you this amount of miles to pay for the premium of the hybrid model vs the regular version."

Using an EV also means you are not sending US dollars to countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran. Instead you are using local sources of energy. This is a cost/benefit that is not mentioned alot. Less national interest in hot-spots is a good thing. Less soldiers needed to be put in harms way is a great thing.

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Posted: 2009/1/14 20:00  Updated: 2009/1/14 20:00
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I would like to think that the solar and wind alternative companies would profit from the production of EV's because you would most likely plug in at night, when the sun is down, (but the wind could be very breezy), and drive during the day when the sun is usually out (unless it's cloudy, but again, if it's cloudy but breezy) and generate some sort of electricity from mother nature.

Most people put their alternative power back into the electric grid and draw on it later.

I would guess that the south face of the typical garage roof holding a few solar panels and a small wind turbine generator (residential sized) would generate enough electricity to (almost) break even when charging the EV.

Charge the car at night, and charge the grid during the day.

I can also see the emergence of solar stations at commuter lots, so you could probably get a free charge for parking there (or for a small fee).

Some people may not have access to a plug and may just use it as a hybrid, in which case, they would still get 35-45 m.p.g. and have alot of free space in the battery pack for regeration.

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Posted: 2009/1/13 20:13  Updated: 2009/1/13 23:56
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As far as transmissions and transfer cases go, an EV realy doesn't need a transmission or a transfer case...at least as we currently know it. The Tesla Roadster uses a 2 speed transmission, a Patriot EV would probably need a 2 or 3 speed transmission with no low gearing, the low rpm torque of the electric motor would be sufficient for heavy-duty off roading.

I too would like to see a high-mileage diesel here in the U.S., but with volatile gas prices and unfriendly Oil Producing countries, greedy oil refiners and a president who thinks $10.00 a gallon gas is OK, we need a vehicle that can run on a diametricly opposed fuel source, namely electricity.

Let's face it, Oil is the ONLY GAME IN TOWN...You can't run a car on anything but OIL, even E85 compatabile vehicles can't get E85 everywhere, so at some point, they need to run on OIL.

We COULD convert our all of our personal vehicle fuel sources to E85, however, our economy is too weak to convert our national infrastructure to E85, because we are sending 700 Billion of our U.S. dollars overseas to spend on foreigen OIL.

Therefore, the OIL companies run un-opposed in this country.

However, if we generate our own electricity (i.e. solar and wind), or in a worst case scenario, PAY 75 cents per equivalent gallon, and drive 40 miles per day, we won't need any gasoline.

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Posted: 2009/1/14 0:06  Updated: 2009/1/14 0:06
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The electricity companies have be licking their freaking chops over these developments.

Also, I think I want to take up an electrical career. Could you imagine how many people are going to be calling electrians to have the special plug connection installed at their house?

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Posted: 2009/1/21 17:12  Updated: 2009/1/21 17:12
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I would prefer that a United States based and owned electric company lick its chops to get my hard earned dollars rather than a middle east dictatorship licking its chops to get my hard earned dollars..

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Posted: 2009/1/13 18:11  Updated: 2009/1/13 18:11
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"For Americans who have never driven in Europe, it might be hard to imagine driving through six countries on a single tank of fuel. In the U.S. it would be hard to drive through six states on a single fillup. British hypermiling enthusiasts John and Helen Taylor set out to see just how far they go in a pair of Jeeps, in this case a Compass and Patriot. The official range of those too models is 473.5 miles. Unlike the U.S. versions, these European Jeeps are equipped with 2.0L diesel engines rated at 36mpg (Compass) and 35mpg (Patriot) combined.

The couple set out from London and headed for the Channel Tunnel. Once they got off the train, they set off through France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany and Poland. They ended up in Slubice Poland, 698 miles from their starting point. Each vehicle used about 48L of diesel with the Compass achieving 55.6mpg (U.S.) and the Patriot doing slightly better at 56.2mpg."

And, these diesel jeeps are made in the USA and exported. So, why are we stuck with a complicated expensive hybrid?

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Posted: 2009/1/13 18:03  Updated: 2009/1/13 18:03
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The patriot definately is the best choice for the first EV Jeep. The model appeals to those who would buy an EV and Jeep does not want any "hard core" Jeepers beating up their savior vehicle off road as would happen if a Wrangler was first.

The Patriot is a front drive / unibody configuration which lends itself to a modular, transversly mounted engine, motor, transmission that is easily installed in one assembly line action. I hope this thing goes over well so Jeep still has enough money to build the Wrangler, which is a specialty vehicle.

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Posted: 2009/1/12 14:15  Updated: 2009/1/12 14:24
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Reality Check Time:
Let's say it's only a $5,000-$10,000 surcharge to get an EV version of the Patriot. That sure whittles down the prospective market. How's a $30,000 Patriot strike you?!

Now, if these are allowed to be dual-utilized on golf courses, that would save me a lot of cart fees over the course (no pun intended) of a year, and would help offset that EV surcharge. Also, you could fit a whole foursome onboard... in air conditioned luxury! Heck, you could probably do 18 holes in an hour & a half!

By comparison, the Chevy Volt, which is --arguably-- soon to be ready for the market, will have a base MSRP around $40K. Don't all jump at once!

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Posted: 2009/1/12 15:21  Updated: 2009/1/12 15:21
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The Ford Escape Hybrid starts at just under $30K, and it's just a hybrid, not an EV. $30K for an EV Patriot is about in-line with the competition.

Personally though, if I was dropping $30K on a Jeep it'd be a JK Rubicon Unlimited, but that's just me.

Disregarding the price though, the Patriot EV is something I'd be interested in for a commuter vehicle. It's about the same size as the XJ was, and if I could plug it in at work I could drive pretty much all week without using any gas. Heck, I even like it with the 20s.

FWIW, full press release on the Patriot EV is up at Jeepin.com now, with more photos of the little rig.

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Posted: 2009/1/12 10:19  Updated: 2009/1/12 10:19
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I checked out the website, the Patriot EV is (expected) available with 2 or 4wd...Based on the experiences of the short-lived Durango Hybrid, 4wd EV recaptures more kinetic energy than 2wd, (that is why Durango Hybrid was only available in 4wd) and i would expect a Jeep EV would only be available as a 4x4.

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Posted: 2009/1/11 22:50  Updated: 2009/1/11 22:50
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I'd MUCH rather have the EV Wrangler. Patriots don't even have a 2 speed transfer case.

Gary

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Posted: 2009/1/12 8:43  Updated: 2009/1/12 8:43
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It makes sense to use the Patriot for an EV platform since it is so much lighter and aerodynamic than a Wrangler.

Will it even be a 4x4 though? What about the Freedom Drive II? Looks like the concept is front wheel drive.

If it were a 4x4 it would make a great commuter car for inclement weather.

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Posted: 2009/1/12 9:20  Updated: 2009/1/12 9:20
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I think you hit the nail on the head. Working out the bugs for EV on the Wrangle platform (with its sophisicated 4wd) is probably a far more time consuming task then on the Patriot platform (with its less demanding 4wd - or posibly 2wd). I think jeep wants to bring a car to market as quickly as possible. If I were them, I believe I would take the path of least resistance also I do hope they choose a 4wd implementation. It would differentiate them from the competition so far.

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The sport wheels and tires pretty much tell the tale - it's a generic soccer mom car with a Jeep logo. I guess the 7 slot grill and brand name help boost sales, but it's certainly not a vehicle intended for trail use.

If I had anything to do with the bailout money, it would be given only on the condition that the Jeep name were used exclusively on "trail-rated" vehicles. Chrysler's bastardizing Jeep's reputation by putting the name on these so-called "lifestyle vehicles". What a shame...

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Posted: 2009/1/12 9:50  Updated: 2009/1/12 9:50
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I guess the more I think about it, I have to agree with you. In my mind, if jeep puts this out as a 2wd it would have to be a decision made by the marketing department. No true jeep enthusiast would do that. Unless, of course, if jeep's plan is to drop the rugged trail vehicle image and become just another road car. But, that would put them into direct competition with the other car companies. Does that make sense? Shouldn't they stick with their "rugged vehicle" image? Putting out a quasi-rugged vehicle will most likely only give them a black eye. On the other hand, WHY DON'T they call it a Chrysler Compas instead. No one would expects a Chrysler Compas to be a "rugged vehicle"? OOPs, did I say that out loud?

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Posted: 2009/1/13 20:14  Updated: 2009/1/13 20:14
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Do some research on Jeep's history, and one would find out that they have always had non-trail rated vehicles. Sheesh, they even have a 2WD Unlimited Wrangler on sale today! I believe that appx. 25% of Jeep sales are for 2WD models.

When someone says that Jeep will get a " . . . black eye", it shows their lack of history of the Jeep brand.

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I stand corrected for my omission in the above message. Thank you for catching that. What I meant to say was “as ONLY a 2wd” as opposed to “as a 2wd”. I stick with the comment “No true jeep enthusiast would do that”. In the late fortys and early fiftys Willys-Overland put out the Jeepster model. It was originally offered ONLY with 2wd (rear wheel drive). I have heard a rumor that late in the production run a 4wd version was offered but it was too late and the model was discontinued. (I have not seen the availability of the 4wd version substantiated in any books). The vehicle had a less then stellar sales history. I doubt that many would consider the original 2wd Jeepster a sales success story or a high point for the jeep line. I would not use the words “black eye” to describe the 2wd Jeepster because way back then there was very little production history for the marketing department to base their decisions on. They took their best shot and it turned out to be a mistake. Of course today is a different story. There is plenty of marketing history to look at. If they did that today I would call it a “black eye”. I am fully aware that Jeep produces 2wd vehicles.. (how could anyone not notice all the jeep mail delivery vehicles…) It escapes me how you draw your “it shows their lack of history” conclusion. But, I acknowledge you could have a deeper knowledge base then me. BY THE WAY, it all seems to be a moot point. I have read that BOTH a 2wd and a 4wd version will be available
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