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Posted by mike on 2009/5/27 10:38:00 (2715) reads

The fine folks over at Popular Mechanics recently published an article about which Chrysler cars they would ditch and which ones they'd keep if they were in charge.

I won't spoil everything for you, but they do want to get rid of the Jeep Patriot - which would probably be their most controversial decision (no tears for the Nitro).

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Posted: 2009/5/29 10:02  Updated: 2009/5/29 10:02
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 Re: If Popular Mechanics Ran Chrysler
Nitro/Libby is body on frame, huh? Learn something new everyday.

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Posted: 2009/5/28 15:10  Updated: 2009/5/28 15:10
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 Re: If Popular Mechanics Ran Chrysler
Popular Mechanics needs to stick to what they know, and they don't know jack about cars! Why would Jeep kill the Partiot? It gets good gas mileage, would be easiest to convert to a hybrid and/or full electric and is selling well.

My prediction is the Fiat merger is going to be a giant flop as was the Diamler merger.

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Posted: 2009/5/27 20:26  Updated: 2009/5/27 22:44
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 Re: If Popular Mechanics Ran Chrysler
2 Profitable lines?, 1 a high-volume Wrangler, 1 a low volume sports-car (Viper). Chrylser/Fiat/Jeep, whoever you want to call them needs to do what Harley-Davidson did...Cut production, cut redundancy, and maximize profits.

Jeep should concentrate on the Wrangler line...2 door, 4 door, 2 door pickup, 2 door Scrambler...

ENVI should be allowed to exist as a separate division, and concentrate PURELY on Electric Drivetrains, instead of compromise Hybrid systems...Hub-mounted motors for a Plug-in-Hybrid drivetrain, small efficient powerplant as a range-extender, mabye a Reformer-Fuel cell ifthey are feeling frisky..Simple Interiors, plug and play entertainment systems and navigation, instead of integrated systems which would drive up costs.

The Liberty replacement should just be a "done-up" Wrangler 4 door, With a permanent hard-top, something like the G-Wagen...They are already half-way there with the Trailhawk.

Liberty? Replace it, the Compass, and Patriot with the Willys Concept, and make it plug-in-hybrid also.

As far as the rest of Chrysler/Dodge..Lose the Sebring, Caliber, crossfire, etc, Keep the 300/Charger/Challenger, but limit production and no mid-line models...How about base trim with the big engine instead of the fluff.

Dodge truck. max profits, min production.

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Posted: 2009/5/30 7:07  Updated: 2009/5/30 7:07
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 Re: If Popular Mechanics Ran Chrysler
Sorry, guys, I don't share your excitement for a plug in hybrid system.

I have to plug into 3-phase outlets for my truck every night at work (we use 'cold plates'); I can't think of anything I'd rather not do than plug in my Jeep!

Plug in hybrids, in my opinon, are a media based fantasy to combat alledged global warming.

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Posted: 2009/5/30 8:36  Updated: 2009/5/30 8:38
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The desire for PiHV's is really simple...There is NO competitor to Oil...You cant run a car on anything BUT Oil-based fuels...E-85 is only available at a fraction of gas stations in a fraction of cities in America. There is just no competitor to Oil, and that is why Oil shot up to $ 150.00 a barrel and gas was $5.00 a gallon last summer, and that ushered in the current recession that we are in now.

If Pihv's are made available to the public, then there is some choice. 45 miles at 45 m.p.h. of EV driving would really cut down on gas usage, which is the range and speed that 90% of American drivers drive 90% of the time.

So as an example, I drive about 20-40 miles per day, all at city speeds, all under 45 m.p.h....I get about 16 m.p.g in my Liberty...not bad for a Jeep, but with a PiHV, my mon-fri gas consumption would be nil...My wife drives 60 miles round trip to work daily 300 miles per week, at an average speed of 45-55 m.p.h. at 16 m.p.g. now (Commander), she uses 4 gallons of gas a day, and 20 gallons a week. With a Pihv in 'Heavy-Hybrid' mode (estimated 100 m.p.g. for the first gallon, because the engine is basically idling), she would only need 3 gallons of gas a week, and a nightly charge at less than $1.00 per charge.

I agree that plugging in nightly or 3-4 nights a week may be a pain, but the fact is that there is NO competitor to gasoline. Bio-fuels will take 10 years to ramp up to full production, and that is IF all resources are dedicated to producing the infrastructure to produce bio-fuels.

Full Electric vehicles? Show me one...And more importantly, where is the infrastructure to charge an electric car on the road. With no dedicated Charging Stations, you are limited to the 150-200 miles range of the battery...OK for driving to Church, the Grocery Store, Target, and the commuter station, but that's about it.

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Posted: 2009/5/27 19:18  Updated: 2009/5/27 19:18
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 Re: If Popular Mechanics Ran Chrysler
Good bye Compass...but keep the Patriot! That is a true contender against the Forrester/CRV crowd that want's
AWD and room for the family for a light off road experience....maybe back roads to the campground, and still maintain a "civil" experience for our urban friends.
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