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CompassA "Grand" New Jeep Compass
Posted by mike on 2010/12/13 13:16:53 (1736) reads

Chrysler announced the 2011 Jeep Compass today with the headline, "A 'Grand' New Jeep® Compass".

The new 2011 Jeep Compass has a distinct family resemblance to the all-new, premium 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee.

With a new hood, new front fenders, new fascia and new headlamps as well as a new grille that has been detailed with a small dose of chrome surrounding the traditional seven slots found on all Jeep vehicles, the new face of the Compass features a more serious, yet sophisticated, appearance. Forward lighting performance is improved with the use of quad reflector headlamps, and the fog lamps are now high output projector lamps. Adding an element of muscle, the hood has been enhanced with a subtle power bulge. The result is a vehicle that projects an attitude that is much more serious and conveys the Compass’ capability in all weather and driving conditions.

New brightwork throughout the exterior lends an upscale touch without compromising the off-road performance of the Compass. A band of protective cladding has been added for 2011, serving to fend off debris when driving in challenging weather conditions or off-road, and providing a new appearance.


Check out the full press release and photos.

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Renegade
Posted: 2010/12/19 20:37  Updated: 2010/12/19 20:37
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 Re: A "Grand" New Jeep Compass
That's a very nice front end wasted on a hideous little turd of a vehicle. These official shots make it look pretty glamorous; far better than the others posted some weeks ago. But it's still the f'n Compass and those are shots done by a professional photographer. When I see one on the street I'm still going to hate it.

The interior does look nice, though…

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Posted: 2010/12/17 6:57  Updated: 2010/12/17 6:59
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Wonder if someone will try to squeeze a turbocharged V6 Pentastar in the Compass for a hot SRT6 version. Hmmm...

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Posted: 2010/12/16 7:52  Updated: 2010/12/16 8:44
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One thing Jeep/Chrysler should do is apply start-stop, MDS, direct injection and E-85 capability fleet-wide..these technologies can easily push the fleet mileage to 35.5 m.p.g...There are 2 technologies on the near-distand horizon that will also boost gas mileage in future vehicles....Fuel Reformation will convert a portion of unburnt fuel into hydrogen, and will add the hydrogen to the fuel mixture to increase the efficiency of the combustion cycle to near-100% cobbustion...Laser ignition is a second technology that will replace standard spark ignition...A Laser Beam (REALLY) ignites the fuel mixture with multiple ignition events in multiple directions, again netting near 100% combustion...The laser also acts as an air/fuel combustion reader, effectively replacing the 02 and MAF/MAP sensor...Even greater mileage increases can be achieved with a Plug-in Hybrid...I'm still waiting for the Willys2 concept to be built...It would be the perfect candidate for a small engine and 40 mile battery pack...Mileage issue solved! 32 inch tires and mini-portal axles....Capability issue solved!!! If nothing else, the 250+ m.p.g. rating for the small Jeeps would boost the fleet mileage overall. GM can build all of the 600 HP Cammros, Corvettes and SUV's they want because their VOLT will get 280+ MPG with the battery pack and efficient engine.

Remember the E.P.A. is looking at gas mileage of 60-67 m.p.g. by 2020, so technologies like laser-ignition and Hydrogen fuel reformation will become standard on every vehicle, along with the above-mentioned technologies....

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Posted: 2010/12/16 8:45  Updated: 2010/12/16 9:51
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Silly me... and I've been waiting all this time for a Wrangler to pass 25mpg (well, maybe we'll get close with the Phoenix/Pentastar...)

We still don't have any Jeep (or Chrysler or Dodge?) that passes the 30mpg barrier!*

The current GM VOLT is rated at 93 "MPG equivalent" (all electric) & 37 MPG combined city/hwy (Gas Only).

Gee, after several years of hype, that doesn't seem all too Earth shattering... especially with the Taxpayers footing a $7500 Federal Rebate on every ($40,000) Volt sold.

See Link: VOLT EPA ratings

[*Allow me to correct myself! The Dodge Caliber with the 2.0L engine & stick gets 32mpg... but, then again, WHO wants to drive it? ]

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Posted: 2010/12/16 10:30  Updated: 2010/12/16 10:30
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I would loike to see the Pentastar Wrangler pass 25 M.P.G. But again remember that it is not about the Wrangler, but the entire Fleet. I think that applying these gas saving technologies fleet-wide is the way to increase overall mileage. 93MPG Electric and 37 MPG gas is correct, but the purpose of the Gas-Electric Plug in Hybrid is to use the drive systems together. When both drivetrains are engaged with full battery charge, the VOLT gets 280+MPG...Now that is for the first gallon of gas on a full battery charge, and yes, you would have to plug in every night, but imagine driving from one paycheck to the next on one or two gallons of gas, instead of 1 or 2 TANKFULLS of gas. More importantly, the mileage increase would be greater if, again, this technology was applied over a greater number of cars in the fleet, instead of one dedicated vehicle. Chrysler had their ENVI test vehicles, which was a pony show for federal relief, but Chrysler swears that they are going to release an all electric vehicle by 2011-2012...

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Posted: 2010/12/16 13:43  Updated: 2010/12/16 14:25
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If you're on full electric, then the MPGs could be quoted as essentially infinite (dividing by zero) since no gas is burned in the car. Dividing the miles travelled while discharging a battery & the next 1 gallon of gas burned is also misleading = mixing apples & oranges.

Electricity isn't free; that's why the EPA decided to quote the 2 distinct ratings for electric & gas. (Reminds me of complex numbers in Math...) While it's not perfect, it's a start, and a little more realistic as a basis for comparison for the consumer --the final Judge.

Haven't heard a peep out of Chrysler concerning electric vehicles, since Fiat canceled the ENVI Program.

Hopefully they're not considering putting beefed up GEM vehicles on the road! It might be a toss up with a head-on collision with a Smart car.

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Posted: 2010/12/16 23:30  Updated: 2010/12/16 23:30
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If they did the math right, they could actually convert electricity into eqivalent btu's and then back convert into miles per gallon, so, all electric mode can be converted into 'equivalent' miles per gallon...The EPA is WRONG though, in that the two drivetrains were designed to work together in unison for maximum mileage...Electric is the most preferred, IF the destined trip is under 40 miles and 45 mph, but it is also the most limited...All gas mode is least preferred, but has the greatest range, especially when coupled with the electric drive train for the first 280 or so miles....

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Posted: 2010/12/17 6:45  Updated: 2010/12/17 6:55
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That's one thing the EPA will never be accused of: DOING THE MATH RIGHT!

Here's the latest scoop on the all-electric scene from Allpar:

Electric vehicles will be centered at Chrysler, with a hybrid minivan in calendar-year 2011 [test fleet], and full electric in 2012 (“light commercial” vehicle). The “unmarketable” Dodge Circuit is dead and other plans have been scaled back; Envi was folded into the standard vehicle development process.

Read more at http://www.allpar.com/corporate/chrysler-group/five-year-plan.html?ktrack=kcplink

No new news on the 2012 Fiat 500 BEV (or EV) --slated for the U.S.-- since March...

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Posted: 2010/12/15 6:31  Updated: 2010/12/15 6:56
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 Re: A "Grand" New Jeep Compass
Design Evolution
Evolution of the CJ-YJ-TJ/TK: ROUND-SQUARE-ROUND.

Evolution of the Grand Cherokee: SQUARE-ROUND-SQUARE.

Evolution of the Liberty: ROUND-SQUARE.

Evolution of the Compass: ROUND-SQUARE.

Fickled bunch of designers, I'd say...
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I do love the new front of the Compass, but the ass-end still sucks.
Maybe it needs to decide if it's ROUND or SQUARE?
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"With the new 2011 Jeep Compass, we've applied the premium design cues of our award-winning new Grand Cherokee," said Mike Manley, head of Jeep.
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Posted: 2010/12/15 13:40  Updated: 2010/12/15 13:40
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"I do love the new front of the Compass, but the ass-end still sucks."

I agree 100%. I also love the new interior. Overall I still like the new look alot! And they pulled off the mating of new and old much better than Toyota did with their F-word SUV that has the great Land Cruiser grill with the totally butt-ugly body. Go Jeep!

And I applaud the increase in gas mileage and the "Trail Rated" capability. But I do wish they could combine trail capability AND good fuel mileage in one package. In order to get the trail rated version (for "Moderate trails") you are forced to get the CVT tranny and it is rated at 20/23 MPG. I'll bet the rest of the world gets a diesel and maybe even a manual tranny with low range and 4WD?

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Posted: 2010/12/15 17:50  Updated: 2010/12/15 18:02
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xjgary -

I wish I worked in the Chrysler design group! I believe the old version Compass would have been a real HOOT --as is-- with an option for an off-road Rally/Ralleye-whatever package and high wattage off-road lights, stiffer shocks, off-road suspension seats, knobby tires, a small turbo, some radical colors and stuff that makes it a sort-of AWD Pike's Peak racer!

It would have been a really cool niche, but they didn't even try. It's still not too late, Mr. Manley!

As it is, it's still an ugly, orphaned duckling --now with a nicer cummerbund!

One objection: if U strive 2 achieve the actual advertised mileage, then you're NOT having any fun driving!!

F the mpgs!!

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Posted: 2010/12/15 18:30  Updated: 2010/12/15 18:30
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Maybe what you describe will become the "Arbarth Edition".

In a few years all manufacturers will need to meet 35 MPG average. This is a start. And they need to overcome all the low mpg vehicles they make, so this can't be taken lightly. I like to shift for myself, so being required to buy an automatic to get real 4wd just does not sit well with me.

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Posted: 2010/12/16 5:24  Updated: 2010/12/16 5:24
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I like to row through my own gears, too.

I'm not too concerned about MPGs until gas hits my $4-5 pain threshold...

As long as Jeep maintains or increases the HP/ft-lbs, I'm happy.

I hope we don't start sliding down in performance, because of the EPA & CAFE laws... kind of like in '72...
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