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WranglerNew Scrambler Picking in mid-2004
Posted by mike on 2003/2/3 0:00:00 (1202) reads

You'll be able to purchase a new, 2005 Scrambler in about 18 months

We've posted the rumors about a long-wheelbase Wrangler in the past, but here's the first report that the Scrambler is going to be making a comeback. Thanks to Matt (one of our readers) for giving us the quick heads-up on this story.

Autoweek.com is running a story about the 2005 Scrambler pickup that will be available in mid-2004. Here's a snippet:

Jeep will sell a pickup derivative of the Wrangler in 2004.

The Scrambler, developed initially for military use overseas, goes on sale as a 2005 model in mid-July 2004, said George Murphy, senior vice president of global marketing.

"It has been developed to increase sales quickly and to pass on the tradition of the Wrangler - which has the strongest image of any vehicle in the Jeep range," Murphy said.

The Scrambler concept sits on a stretched Wrangler wheelbase, enabling the addition of a 4-foot pickup bed behind a two-passenger compartment.Murphy said the Scrambler will be available in long and short wheelbases, but Chrysler declined to disclose specifications. Four- and six-cylinder engines will be available.

Be sure to read the entire article for more information.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Cole
here is my comment

This thing will not hunt!

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: jkeenan
There is a company called American Expedition Vehicles, that builds a truck out of a wrangler.
They call it a "Brute". The bed on this vehicle is pushing 5 feet and is a long wheel base conversion. It is pretty impresive looking.
www.aev-conversions.com

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: scramblejim
Put my name on the list too. Ive got an 81 scrambler thats in sore need of a new body, straight frame, more power than the 258 can offer with a carbeurator and a better suspension. But I wont get a Wrangler or a Rubicon because I dont want to give up the bed. But I agree, you cant have a tailgate party without a real tailgate, the tire can stay back there on a swingout carrier or mount to rollbar, offer us both options, but for the love of god dont put it under the truck. youll never get to it offroad, and it kills ground clearance, you wanna do something with the room? bigger gas tank.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: BornAJeepster
here is my comment:
As a Reply to Ugh and Super Ughh ... Just so that you know, The Scrambler was around LONG before the new "Wrangler". I'm a VERY Proud Owner of a 1983 Jeep CJ8 Scrambler, Which my Folks Bought for me, Brand New, as a graduation gift. Back when Jeeps were Jeeps and You refered to them as "CJs" (which, by the way stands for "Civilian Jeep"). The original Scramblers were the ORIGINAL SUVs. They originally came out with various options such as A Full Body Hard Top and extra Bench seat in the rear, a full body soft top, as well as the traditional "Cab Only" Hard and Soft Top. This was a vehicle that only suffered in popularity because of the Gas Crunch, and push for economy cars. Remember, this is the same time we lost the REAL Camaros, and Other "Muscle" Cars. The Scrambler was, in some ways, like the Edsel in that it was WAY ahead of it's time.

I don't understand how you can Love the Wrangler, and not like the Scrambler. I'm sure that like the originals, the new Scramblers will offer several choices in options. And Hey, They Ride the Trails and Rutts as well as any Wrangler on the road.

I, for one, can't wait for the reintroduction of the Scrambler. I have a Freind that owns a Chrysler Dealership, and I already have in writing that the First Scrambler he get's is MINE.
I'll just add it to my Jeep Collection (I have 4 including the '83 Scrambler)

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Allen
O.K.

Here's my two cents. I think this Jeep is a definite step in the right direction, although I agree that there are several changes needed. First of all is the tailgate. Why not make it usable. The tire makes it hard to load and unload so mount it beneath. Second I think that the Hard top, while good, just isn't right. I guess It's just missing the Roll bar. THat's the jeep signature. I always notice the rollbars. Thirdly, How about a more traditional looking front end, and by that I mean actually reminiscent of the CJ-8. What about a V8. I'm sick and tired of underpowered jeeps. I own an 83 CJ7, and have a 350 in it. It's much better. The I-6 is undoubtedly a montser of torque, but at least give us the option...I mean who wants to choose between 4 and 6, at least give us 6 and 8. I want it to run on the highway, if I want to pass, I want to go. Anyway, I think the people are right with the dakar idea...that would rock.


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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Ronald
I agree with most guys here.
I'm from Europe and I like to see A dakar type Wrangler and the Brute both. I absolutly bought them both If the were powered by a nice daimler powerful diesel. For the european market it would be great, because this cars can be sold as commercial vehicles and would be affordable then.

HELLO CHRYSLER-GUYS WAKE UP AND LISTEN TO US.




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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: rich

No one is knocking the Wranglers exterior
design! The folks at AEV have merely made
it even better.
Also were not knocking a short cab, as much
as the bizarre shape they've given it if you
look closely.
As far as the rear tire, I agree it is the
"Jeep look" but lets face it, alot of Jeepers
dislike the weight of a tire being supported
by a relatively weak sheet-metal rear gate.
It also doesn't suit a pick up design and
function issues

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Dave
I can't wait to get one, throw a little lift on, tires etc. That's the great thing about Jeeps. I'm glad they don't make them like the Brute, because we'd all have the same looking vehicle. I like being able to customize it myself.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: rich
we all love the AEV vehicles! Of course
due to safety laws, etc. Chrysler obviously
can't mass produce vehicles with 4" lifts,
33" tires, etc.
But they should take after AEV.s direction
and build a separate truck bed, put the spare
under the rear, and dump that ugly hardtop
design.
They should see what AEV has done with the
TJ's as in the extended 104' and 112" versions.
Definitely have atleast 31" tires as an option

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: TJjackson
The Scrambler pickup is cool. The Brute is better. Why not put a V-8 in this and other Wranglers, Grand Cherokee 4.7L maybe.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: MalcomXJ
One step closer to the Dakar, this is definitely good news. I'm also heartened by the inclusion of the I-6. Definite possibilities with this one. Thumbs up, DCX...

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Erik

The return of the Scrambler is great news! I have been waiting a long time for this.

Now, if they could offer a Rubicon Package Scrambler with the diesel enginer.............



Erik

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: JD
Needs a RollBar.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: T Bell
Yeah that thing is ugly. But who cares it's a Jeep. But that Brute, that is the way to go.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: rich
Finally were all in agreement! While the Scrambler
comeback is a step in the right direction, I think
the real success would come from a true Dakar-type
Wrangler. Wrangler lovers would love more room!
4 doors! Some gear storage! I mean how many more baskets can I bolt on my damn TJ?!
I don't expect a higher suspension, though it would be nice, I realize there are certain safety laws. I don't even need a removable top? The
safari style rollback on the Dakar would be cool.
31" tires standard would be cool..I could take it
from there....Lots of inner storage,tie-downs, and
a roof rack..please!!!

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: SuperUgggh
I agree with Ugh, this "truck" (if you can call it that) is total butt ugly. I own a '01 Wrangler and this is almost insulting to me as an owner. It looks like it came out of someone's chop shop or is some kind of high school metal shop project.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: OR Bruce
Bring on the Dakar! This chassis should be perfect. How about an extra half inch or so of elbow room for the driver? Current Wranglers are a bit tight there for us big guys.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Northwest Outback
I think its great. The Jeep pickup would make a good ranch utility for running fences and the like. I'm still waiting for a Dakar-like longer passenger Wrangler (as long as the top is fully removable). A diesel and a factory winch would be welcome as well. Overall, DCX has done a very good job with the Jeep product line to date.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: ScramblerKen
After seeing what Jeep has been showing for future concept vehicles (like the Compass), after the end of the Cherokee and the introductions of the Liberty, it is sure nice to see Jeep doing something with the symbol of Jeep. Yes, the Rubicon is also a wonderful true Jeep, so I did not mean to confuse things.

I have heard the rumors on the return of the Scrambler for over 4 years, and it is nice to see that it is becoming a reality.

If you love the Liberties and like the Compass and other non-Wrangler style Jeeps that fine, but for me I want a Jeep pickup based on the good old original Jeep style.

Let's not get into an argument about what is a Jeep and what is not. I just want to thank those in charge at Jeep for giving us a Scrambler again.


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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: ScramblerKen
Yeah!!!!!!!!!!

So when can I order one???

Nice to see a REAL Jeep for a change.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Bill
Autoweek must be mistaken, or has never been to Toledo. The Liberty and Wrangler are built in a brand new, state of the art plant. The old Toledo Plant has been torn down. As for the Scrambler, I'll take one, where do I sign!

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: DD
Mail your suggestions to DC:
DaimlerChrysler Corporation
Outside Suggestion Office
CIMS:483-01-07 800
Chrysler Drive East
Auburn Hills, MI 48326-2757

I think the Scrambler concept is a great idea, poorly executed.

The AEV 104" and 112" look great. http://www.aev-conversions.com/gallery/SEMA1011.jpg

The "Scrambler" should be offered in two lengths, with a choice of the I-4 or I-6 gasoline engines or the diesel that is supposed to be offered in the Liberty. A manual or automatic (the 5 speed offered in the UK on the diesel Cherokee/Liberty would be nice. Hard (preferably modular) or soft top or both. Rear foldable bench or rear buckets (as in the AEV 112"). Offer a full length safari rack on the hard or soft top. A factory Rhino-lined or Line-xed interior would be great.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Danny
This is totally awesome. I have a newer Jeep wrangler and when I go offroading i like to keep the inside clean. But i never have a place to through my muddy tow straps and other recovery tools. I been hoping jeep would do this for a while.I cant wait to see it on the road!!

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Jeep fan Bob
Any thing Jeep does is all right by me, I own a 95 and and 01 Wrangler, I think the Wrangler truck is a great Idea, The tire must stay on the back, thats a Jeep signature! perhaps it could be attached to the gate only with a power asisted gate. The short hard top is fine, how about a standard soft top/ roll bar with sound bar. now were talking. Also if anyone at Jeep is reading this please do not change the Wranglers exterior looks in 2005 Its perfect its a JEEP!!!!!!

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Dan Stevenson
If this is true I will definitely go check it out. I am pretty fond of my 78 CJ-5 so I don't know if I would actually buy one (would depend an awfully lot on the price) but I would be more interested in a pickup variation than the current configuration. Actually, the custom unit built by American Expedition Vehicles (AEV) would be my first choice but I would bet that that rig is more than the Chrysler accountants are willing to gamble on.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: JASON
GOOD NEWS!! ONE STEP CLOSER TO A J-20!

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Tom Rawlins
Yeah, I'll buy the longer wheelbase version Scrambler, and my brother will buy one, too, but not sure which version he will opt for. I'll still keep my regular TJ, too.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: rich
I agree. But a full top would make it more
like the old CJ6, as opposed to a Scrambler.
The top is hideous,the tailgate setup sucks.
The military version looked a bit better somehow.
I realize they can't mass-produce a vehicle like
AEV's Brute, 4" lift and all, but it is a MUCH
better update of the Scrambler

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Sean M.
GREAT! idea, but poorly executed. The spare tire on the back HAS TO GO! The hard top HAS TO GO! A removable soft top all the way back would be much better.

What are they thinking, this thing looks like a Munster mobile for gods sake!

For a pickup to work you need a tail gate, this thing has a swing away gate, like the current Wrangler. This just isn't going to work. At least mount the spare under or in the bed. Lets hope the production model is better...

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: xjgary
Nortwest I really agree with you. I don't need a pickup, but a Wrangler is too small--so give me a Dakar type Jeep with a removable roof, a turbo Diesel and the Rubicon package-but some more lift. I need to carry people and heavy gear.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Ugh
Look at the pics? It's butt ugly. Make a 4 door, 4 seat with a truck bed and real offroad look & tires...(Like the brute) .... then i'll care.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: to hell with hondas
what do you mean real jeep? where were you when the rubicon came out?? or are you refering to the liberty as a "fake" jeep.
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