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WranglerNo more 3.7L engines for Wranglers?
Posted by mike on 2005/6/6 0:00:00 (1985) reads

One of our readers reports that 4.0L will be the minimum size.

One of our readers recently emailed us and passed along some information about the engine selections coming in the all-new 2007 Wranglers. Here's what he has to say:

The '07 Wrangler will NOT use the 3.7L V-6 engine. Jeep understands the great value when owners mention that "it has a 4.0L in it."

The engine slated for the next generation Wrangler will be a modified version of the 3.7L V-6...it's displacement will be increased to 4.0L using more stroke (increased torque) and slightly larger pistons.

DCX has promised over $300 million to upgrade the engine plant in Trenton, MI. Over $155 million of this money will be used to prepare the plant to build the new 4.0L V-6 engine.

Jeep Liberty CRD in Green Magazine

The Diesel Jeep Liberty has an article about it in GreenCar.com - one of the premier alternate-fuels vehicles magazine. Here's a snippet:

Bring up the subject of emissions regulations with Jeep executives or engineers and the frustrations brooding beneath the surface come through. One senior-level manager shared his exasperation that California in particular – with high-quality diesel fuel already available and a seemingly arbitrary emissions cutoff point for diesel passenger vehicles in place – would effectively deny new car buyers a highly-efficient alternative to the gasoline-powered mid-size SUV.

Check out the entire article.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: jeff
I'm an all Jeep family, and the grand is about as water down as I can stand but makes a good familymobile.

I agree the Commander is sure to be a flop because it's a ugly mom-mobile.

Jeep is on target with the Gladiator and extending that look to the new Wrangler in both a two and four door with big block gas and diesel will win big with Rubicon offroad capablity.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: OnlyOneJeep
The End of Jeep is NEAR.....

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: KJ Owner
This is PURE BS!! The Liberty by no means in the same class as the C.R.V., Rav4 and Escape. These are all based on car chasis and don't even have a low range t-case. The Liberty is much closer to a Cherokee than any of those "cars". Just because the Liberty has IFS doesn't mean it is not an off road vehicle. Is the IFS as good as the SFA, maybe not, but that does not make it a soft roader. I am sick of people who know very little about the capabilities of the KJ make these kind of statments just because they don't like IFS or don't like the styling Jeep chose. I have owned many model of Jeeps over the years and I am quite happy with my KJ both on and off the road, it has been places that a C.R.V., Rav4 and Escape owner can only dream of going!

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: HeavyDutyDan
I am starting to think that DCX will never listen to it's fans...they still put out a decent product, but it's never what we truly want. Oh well, like they say, real jeeps are built not bought...so i guess the next wrangler i buy, i'll just haul out the engine and put a diesel in it myself, seeing as DCX won't do it. Hmm..I wonder if I could get a Cummins to fit in there :-) J/K


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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Manual XJ Guy
How about a C.R.D. Gladiator?

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: BIGDADDYTJ
And who's the mastermind at DC/Jeep that thinks they can just slap a 4.0 sticker on the side of the new Wrangler to win over the hearts of the diehard 4.0 lovers? Fool. The engines are night and day from each other...the only thing common between them would be the 4.0 naming. Jeep, don't p!ss on my back and say it's raining.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: BIGDADDYTJ
Why go through the expense of "hot rodding" the 3.7 when they could just drop the Hemi in and be done with it? In my opinion a (detuned) Hemi and a small Diesel would be sweet engine options for the new Wrangler.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Jon
I think Jeeps best days are ahead.

Over the next few years-
New Commander, GC SRT, Wrangler 2dr & 4dr and truck, 2 different entry level vehicles (Compass and ?) and then a totally redesigned Liberty.

If you can find a vehicle that suits you with all of these then switch brands.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: comment
autoweek.com has new spy shots of the compass, fyi

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: xjgary
Like the others I'd like to see the Diesel offered. Like someone said, that is what the hard core folks will want. As we all know, DC already makes a perfectly good 4.0 that works great, so why spend all that money to revamp the 3.7? And, I'd just love to get a Gladiator with a D and manual tranny.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Walt
D...
Give me the G...
The Gladiator.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Manual XJ Guy
I knew I wasn't the only one that wanted the manual C.R.D!!

Yeah that is just plan stupid upgrading a 3.7L to 4.0L. The great part about the inline 6 was that it had a lot of low end power and never had to come much about 2000RPM during normal driving... a 4.0L V6 is going to be a nightmere gas hog with all the power in the high RPMS.... yeah, now we can drag mustangs... Might as well given the decreased emphasis on actual 4x4ing latley by DC



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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: thomas
Which Diesel do you want in the Wrangler or Gladiator? 2.8 (Liberty)? 3.0 (Grand Cherokee-Europe)? 3.2(Mercedes)? 4.2 (Mercedes)?

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: NON_trailrated
Jeep has begun to lose their identity – they are chasing fads and have already begun to build what others already have.

Liberty…OK, call it a RAV4, Forester, or Escape...all the same. Sure DCX drew in non-Jeep customers but those people have no loyalty – this year a Jeep next year a Honda. At the same time they displaced countless Cherokee owners. Cherokee owners were Jeep owners, they were faithful, and most have owned other Jeeps.

Jeep Commander – a sure flop. Next they are planning to build an entry level Jeep that has front wheel drive…wow, I am excited. Maybe they can compete with Neons. What next…sedans, station wagons, mini vans…c’mon Jeep make them all.

My dream – that a company such as Ford, Toyota, etc. come out with something that will directly compete with the next generation Wrangler – and I hope they spank the new Wrangler bad. DCX are chasing money guys…they will sell WHATEVER makes a few bucks for their shareholders. RIP 4.0L engine…RIP Wrangler…RIP Jeep…….

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: asd
The rumours on allpar.com say the 3.8l engine is an update of the iron pushrod engine found in the minivans. This will be used in the TK, not the 3.7l truck engine or the new 4.0l V6.

The 4.0l V6 is rumoured to be a more high tech high reving aluminum engine, not a low end torque monster. Not suitable for a Jeep or truck.

I want the diesel. In the gladiator. :)

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Greg
hmmm ... I like the diesel.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Greg
That's
D in all jeeps.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Greg
Now that I think about it ... replacing the 3.7 with a 4.0 isn't a terrible idea AS LONG AS you do it across the board. Making the 4.0 V6 just for the wrangler would be silly, makeing the new 4.0 to replace all 3.7's doesn't sound all that crazy.

Still am more interested in getting the
D in all the jeeps.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: 96 XJ Owner
i think it is a good idea to increase the displacement of the 3.7. the longer stroke will help its lower end torque. but more inportantly the same modifications can be made to the 4.7 and bump it up to a 5.3. incrasing the power in the 4.7 will close the gap between it and the HEMI and make it a more profitable engine.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Walt
Jeep. I don't care what you put in it as long as you build the gladiator...
Now quit screwing around and go build it.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: jeep fan
155 million to upgrade the 3.7 to 4.0 -- how about just giving us the crd diesel with six speed manual tranny. Get with the times DC!

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Manual XJ Guy
Yes.... PLAN stupid
(Think I could have picked a better spot to make a spelling mistake :) )

eh em... Plain Stupid...

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Greg
So basically, DCX is thinking, "Let's make our 3.7 V6 a little bigger so that maybe jeepers won't notice we've phased out the I6 4.0" That's a silly idea to waste $300 million on.

DCX, if this is true, save youself $300 and just put the 3.7 V6 in the wrnagler. None of the die hard jeepers are gonna mind that you put the 3.7 in if you also put in the
D at the same cost.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: Jim
I think the
Diesel engine would be an awesome option for the wrangler, I would rather see that than a new V6.

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Anonymous
Posted: 1969/12/31 19:00  Updated: 1969/12/31 19:00
 Originally posted by: craig
I have driven the
D Liberty, and it has plenty of power. That engine would be a sweet deal in a Wrangler!!
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