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WranglerNew Wrangler to Reconfigurable Hard Top
Posted by mike on 2005/11/12 12:25:05 (3105) reads

LeftLaneNews.com is reporting that the next-generation Wrangler will feature a reconfigurable hard top - t-tops in front and a hardtop in the rear.

Sources say the off-roader which will be offered in two- and four-door configurations will feature removable t-tops for the front, and a regular hardtop for the rear.
They are also reporting that the overall design of the truck will resemble the Jeep Gladiator concept.

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XJGuy
Posted: 2006/1/12 22:32  Updated: 2006/1/12 22:32
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this will be a nice feature good for those days that don't fit with the season like the 60 degree days in january

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RUBICON
Posted: 2005/11/15 22:00  Updated: 2005/11/15 22:00
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This article may clear up some of the confusion about roll over requirements, etc.

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103546

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Roof edict could be called 'Wrangler rule'

The federal government wants to expand the reach of its roof-crush rules aimed at protecting passengers in rollover crashes. But the move would cover just one additional model: the Jeep Wrangler.

DaimlerChrysler AG spokesman Max Gates says the company does not believe the Wrangler, as currently designed, would pass a roof-crush test.

Gates said in an e-mail that Wrangler's "sports bar is not designed and engineered as a protective device, such as roll bars on some sports cars and racing vehicles."

A redesigned Wrangler is expected next year, while new roof-crush standards will not take effect until the 2010 model year at the earliest. It is not known whether the next-generation Wrangler would meet roof-crush resistance standards.

In proposed roof-crush rules, "open-body type vehicles" with structures between the A- and B-pillars no longer would be considered convertibles. They no longer would qualify for the exemption that convertibles get from roof-crush testing.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's proposal cites the Wrangler as one example. But officials acknowledge they know of no other that meets the same criteria.

Steve Kratzke, NHTSA's associate administrator for rule making, says the purpose of the change was not to target the Wrangler. Other similar vehicles could be introduced at any time, he adds.

Safety activist Gerald Donaldson predicts automakers will "go nuts" over that provision. He is senior research director at Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety, a coalition of consumer groups and insurers.

Barry Felrice, director of regulatory affairs in DaimlerChrysler's Washington office, says his company has not decided how to respond.

Kratzke explains the rationale for extending roof-strength requirements to Wrangler-like vehicles this way: "If a vehicle has a fixed, rigid, structural member that's connected, it's not unreasonable for that vehicle to meet roof-crush standards."
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myhotwheels22981
Posted: 2005/11/16 2:16  Updated: 2005/11/16 2:16
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Interesting article...I would speculate that Jeep has already engineered the roof crush resistance of 2.5 times the vehicle weight into the TK model. After all, it is a voluntary effort, and not outside the realm of possibility for the TK. I can only assume that that is the reason why the TK is switching to the integrated rollcage/hardtop/soft-top/airbag system.

It is not an impossible task, and I have read about and met people who were saved by the current TJ rollbar in high speed rollovers, where you would expect the rollbar to endure forces of 2.5 times the vehicle weight. I dont think that this regulation came as a suprise to Daimler/Chrysler/Jeep.

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Dak
Posted: 2005/11/15 21:07  Updated: 2005/11/15 21:07
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Well, if it is for some stupid Gov't regs they have to do this to the Jeep... I hope when the pieces are removed it has a strong resemblance to the Icon show Jeep DC had not too long ago. Other than that, guess we'll just have to wait and see.. and pray in the meantime.

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hoghead00
Posted: 2005/11/15 9:13  Updated: 2005/11/15 9:13
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Mike,

Sorry for the confusion. I'm not saying that the government is banning convertibles. All I'm saying is that it seems like with the new goverment crash requirements for 2007? (I think) the days of the roll bar only Jeeps will be gone. I imagine we will be stuck with something that has airbags coming out of the roof or door. I'm not sure how other convertibles will work.

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myhotwheels22981
Posted: 2005/11/15 2:42  Updated: 2005/11/16 1:54
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Whoa, Whoa, Whoa STOP, STOP, STOP...

First of all...Motor Trend, JP magazine, 4-Wheeler, 4-Wheel and Off Road, and numerous OTHER automotive news sources, all which are much more reliable news sources than 'Leftist-lane news.com' have ALL reported that the 'TK' will have a 5-panel removable hardtop and a 5-panel unzippable soft-top...I don't know where the notion of a t-top came in...

Second of all...WHAT government regulations are we speaking about? Has the Government BANNED the convertible alltogether while I was sleeping ??? That would be a big blow to prestigous automakers like BMW, VW/Porsche, Mercedes, as well as ALL of the domestic and Japanese automakers who mass-produce CONVERTIBLES, and more importantly, have just REDESIGNED their convertibles...I don't think that the Government has banned the convertible since the last time I checked, and more importantly, I do believe that a Wrangler, with a full rollcage, would be MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH safer than, say, convertible versions of the MINI, Z4, Carrera, Boxster, SLK, Cabriolet, PT-Cruiser Convertible, and countless other convertibles on the market.

And Third of all, OOJ, you are such a Jag, and I dont mean the one made by FORD...the YJ sucks, it ALWAYS sucked, if it didn't suck, they would never have made the TJ, but since they did, it (the YJ)must have REALLY sucked, or they would have had 2 models, like the CJ-5 and CJ-7, but since they didn't, then it means that it just plain ol' sucked, you suck, If the YJ actually did conquer the RUBICON trail, then it did so with so much trail damage that it would then suck to the point that it would be undriveable, and they would have had to scrap it immediately afterwards, and did I mention that you and your YJ suck?, the YJ soft-top sucks, the suspension sucks, the I-6 and 2.5L do NOT suck, but the YJ transmissions suck SOOO much that they make the engines which do not suck, suck....You still suck, your YJ still sucks, it sucked last week, it will suck next week, the rear seat sucks, the spare tire bracket sucks, the fuel filler location sucks, the roll bar sucks, the soundbar sucks, the swaybar sucks, the trackbar sucks, the stereo sucks, the glovebox sucks, the center console sucks, the shifters, the seat brackets, the U-joints, the bumpers, all suck, not all YJ's suck, only YOUR YJ sucks, the front axle disconnect technically sucks since it operates off of a vacuum line, but even if it didn't suck in the form of a vacuum, the design still sucks, the wheelwells suck, the brakes suck, the heater sucks, the AC sucks, the airbags suck...Oh, I'm sorry, the YJ doesn't have airbags, if you get into an accident, that REALLY sucks, and before you say that you don't need airbags if you wear your seatbelt, guess what...the seatbelts suck too, just like you and your sucky YJ, you know what YJ stands for?

(Y)our a (J)ag

I HOPE the TK has 4 wheel independent suspension, because it would still be better than your rusted out suck piece of crap YJ

This just in...OOJ STILL SUCKS...

Death to the YJ, Long live the TK and it's 5 piece removable hardtop with zip-in removable canvas panels.

UPDATE...Hey JeepXK, I did forget that square headlights and goofy sun and palm tree stick on graphics suck (remember the MANGO Islander? did that package suck) I mean, it's bad enough that the graphics sucked when they were new, but give them about 5 years of sitting in the sun to fade, and that sucked even more than when they were new...I bet OOJ's YJ had the Islander package...slap on some of the 'EURO' double blades on the wipers (HEY!, I forgot that the YJ wipers suck too) and the pink coil antenna, and bolt those euro mirrors to the windshield frame, and you have OOJ's sucky YJ---THANX for reminding me...and yes OOJ, I did spell vacuum wrong, and I am now correcting it, however, as someone who does not suck, I usually don't think along the lines of sucking, and vacuum is just not in the TJ vernacular, since the TJ front axle does not have a suck axle disconnect...I have still come to the conclusion that you and your YJ did, do, and always will suck...But, hey, look at it in a constructive way, if there were nobody like you in the world who did suck, then there would be nobody like us who do not suck, and if your YJ did not suck, then all jeeps would be equal, and then all jeeps would in fact, suck.

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Anonymous
Posted: 2005/11/15 6:19  Updated: 2005/11/15 6:22
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You spelled 'vacuum' wrong.

That sucks, indeed.

Love Always, OnlyOneJeep.

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jeepxk
Posted: 2005/11/15 9:55  Updated: 2005/11/15 9:55
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That's the funniest thing I have read in awhile!
You forgot to mention that the SQUARE HEADLIGHTS SUCK and "real Jeeps" have round headlights so YJ's must really SUCK.
And what about those gay graphics on YJ's? They sucked. Who the hell wants a graphic of a sun on their Jeep. It might as well been a rainbow.
Oh course, this does only apply to OOJ and his YJ.

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Josephus
Posted: 2005/11/17 1:03  Updated: 2005/11/17 1:03
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MyHotWheels,
I agree with your technical points right up until "Third of all"...
That's just excessive suckage. I mean really, really whay off topic. Your weakpoint-by-weakpoint analysis of the YJ does indicate a thorough knowledge of YJ flaws, did you fall victim to one in the past? I certainly am not defending anyone or any vehicle. Let's just stick to bashing imports instead of individuals, who unfortunately chose the wrong Jeep model year.
Can't we all just get along?

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myhotwheels22981
Posted: 2005/11/17 1:50  Updated: 2005/11/17 1:50
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First of all, Josephus, do YOU want to suck too , or do you want to NOT suck... To paraphrase Andrew 'Dice' Clay...You either SUCK, or you do NOT suck...

Second of all, I'm not bashing the YJ, per say, but lets face it, sucky boy OOJ driving his sucky (Y)our (J)agmobile refuse to accept progression, especially in the face of Governmental Regulation (which in itself is 90% governance, and 10% mental). I'd be happy with a simple CJ-2A, my goal is to build one from scratch resto parts, but let's face it ,Jeep couldn't get away with building one today, that's MY decision to build and drive one...It's safer than a motorcycle, in my opinion, and much more fun, but if I get into an accident, I really can't sue anyone except me...Daimler Chrysler and Jeep don't have that option in mass-producing the Wrangler....

I also stand by what I said, If the YJ was SO great, then why didn't they continue it's production into the TJ production run? Believe it or not, Jeep could have continued to produce the '96 YJ indefinitely, they would just have to continue to call it a '96...The same goes for the TJ, but again, that is not going to happen because of something called PROGRESSION...

That is where the TK comes in...It is the natural progression of the TJ, the YJ, the CJ, and the MJ...If OOJ wants to form his own sucky country and drive YJ's up and down all creation, good luck, but we live in the real world here, and the more cars that are produced, the more that eventually get into accidents, and the more the automakers learn form the damaged cars, and the newer cars become better, not suckier....

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dbh_jeep
Posted: 2005/11/23 9:29  Updated: 2005/11/23 9:29
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You make some excellent points...

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wjsiii
Posted: 2005/11/13 21:32  Updated: 2005/11/13 21:32
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The top news (if true) is disappointing. Also the words "upscale interior" are a tad disappointing too. I will hold judgement until we see a press release set of pics and specs.

I agree that the Wrangler line will suffer if it is no longer a true convertable.

But for me I'm still holding out for the Gladiator, I don't need a Wrangler I need a truck.

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matthewmparks21406
Posted: 2005/11/13 17:19  Updated: 2005/11/13 17:21
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They are saying that they belive it will have removable T top sections in the front and a removable hard top in the back, sort of like the sunrider soft top just in Hard Top form. In other words the top will still be removable just in sections instead of all at once.

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hoghead00
Posted: 2005/11/12 14:08  Updated: 2005/11/12 14:08
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Kind of disappointing on the T-tops and hardtop in back, if true. I guess that's government safety regulations for you....

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Anonymous
Posted: 2005/11/12 17:28  Updated: 2005/11/12 17:28
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Best news I have heard today! The "Jeep" is dead. No open tub? Dead. Not a Jeep. The value of YJ/TJ and all her ancestors has now increased. Long live old Jeeps...just like RT 66; it is all gone baby..................

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RUBICON
Posted: 2005/11/13 12:26  Updated: 2005/11/13 12:26
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Best news I have heard today! OnlyOneJeep won't have any reason to come to this site anymore! .....................

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Anonymous
Posted: 2005/11/13 18:25  Updated: 2005/11/13 18:25
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Nope. Sorry. Here for a lllllllllllllllong time.
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